Director Matthew López on 'Red, White & Royal Blue's' big romance

Gregg Shapiro: Matthew, considering your long and lauded history in the theater, was the prospect of directing your first feature film daunting, thrilling, or both?
Matthew López: Generally thrilling, occasionally daunting. But it was only daunting in that there was just a steep learning curve. I was acutely aware of the things I didn't know, and on occasion, there were things I didn't know I didn't know until I had to know it [laughs], at the risk of sounding like Donald Rumsfeld. But it was mostly thrilling, and it was great fun, really. I'd do it again if they let me.

With actors such as Taylor Zakhar Perez and Nicholas Galitzine in the lead roles of First Son Alex and Prince Henry, "Red, White & Royal Blue" will have no trouble drawing gay men into their local multiplexes. Do you think the actors could have the same draw on straight audiences?
I hope so. I've spent a lifetime as an avid consumer of straight love stories, and not just because I had no other options, but because I genuinely wanted to see any of those particular films. I don't see any reason why the stream doesn't flow in both directions. This is as unapologetically a queer romcom as "Moonstruck" was as unapologetically an Italian romcom. It is part of what makes this movie unique.

It is inescapable, but it also is, we hope, if we're successful and if we're lucky, it becomes part of the larger canon of romcoms, rather than simply kept in a corner. We want as many people to see this movie as possible, but we also knew that we wanted to make a movie that was as specific as possible. We never tried to hide who we were in order to find an audience. I think that kind of specificity is what people are really desiring these days.

There are some powerful and emotional scenes in "Red, White & Royal Blue," but the one that hit me the hardest is when Alex, son of the first female POTUS, came out to his mother Ellen, played by Uma Thurman. What was it like to work with Uma?
I adore her. She was so very happy to be in this movie, which was so wonderful. She really understood Ellen. She and I had so many wonderful conversations about her before production. I involved her in a lot of costume design decisions. She really wanted to understand this woman holistically. That scene was just so beautiful.

By the time we shot it, she and Taylor had really bonded, and they had shot a lot of scenes together at that point. It was the loveliest, warmest environment on set. I mean, it was a very lovely, warm environment on set every day, but that day you can just see in that scene the genuine affection that these two actors have for one another. It was real.

Ellen is a staunch Democrat. As a Florida native, and considering what has occurred here during the reign of the current governor, was that in any way what appealed to you about directing and co-adapting the screenplay for "Red, White & Royal Blue"?
No, I loved the story, and I didn't give a shit what the governor of Florida thinks about it. I couldn't care less what that man thinks, only as it relates to the health of the union. I didn't have this story growing up. I didn't have access to characters such as these when I was younger. It took until I was in my 40s to read it, to get a novel that had a character like Alex, that I knew implicitly was really special.

To me, it was really powerful to read a novel that had a queer, Latine, young man at the center who was a very positive characterization of a queer Latine man, someone who was filled with hope and possibility. I wanted to bring that into the world. The politics in the novel and in the movie are a hopeful one. It's not something that is, I hope, too much of a fairy tale.

I loved seeing out actor and writer Stephen Fry's name in the credits at the beginning, and without giving anything away, was surprised to see him, very close to the end, in the role he plays. What did it mean to you to work with Stephen?
I've always been such a fan of his and really admired him greatly. We had had some sort of communication through other people over the years because he had seen "The Inheritance" in London. He got word to me, through our producers, how much he loved it.

I had been working at one point on another film that I thought I was going to make, and when he found out that I was working on it, he was like, "I'd really love to be a small part in it if you have anything." But I never talked to him and never met him. When this role came around [laughs], we thought, "Let's see if he really means what he says!" He jumped at it! It didn't take long at all for him to say, "Yes." That was fun. Just to watch him and work with him is just a great thrill and a pleasure. It was for everybody. Everybody was really excited the day that he came on set.

"Red, White & Royal Blue" is being released at a time when, following the passing of Queen Elizabeth and the situation surrounding Harry and Meghan, questions about the necessity of a monarchy have gotten more attention. Do you think "Red, White & Royal Blue" is a help or a hindrance in that regard?
I don't really have an opinion one way or the other about that because I think that the movie isn't actually about the royal family. It uses the royal family as a vehicle to tell the story of a person trapped in a circumstance.

I think the thing that is so amazing about Casey McQuiston's novel is that Casey actually gives us a character that, historically, we haven't had too much sympathy for. And yet, because Casey draws this character in a way that a lot of us can relate to, which is a person trapped against their own will and circumstances that they are powerless over, you really care for Henry and you really feel deeply for Henry.

I also knew that, as we were making this film, I didn't want the audience to think about the actual royal family when they were watching the film. Because I think if they did, they would be taken out of the story. I think we use the trappings of royalty as a way to tell our story, but it doesn't take an opinion one way or another, because that's not what the movie is about.

The movie begins with a storybook royal wedding, but the real love story is the one between Alex and Henry. In recent years, the UK has begun taking actions such as the posthumous pardoning of thousands of gay men for gross indecency, and such, as well as Prime Minister Sunak's recent apology to LGBT members of the military. With that in mind, do you think that the characters of Alex and Henry could also have a storybook wedding?
Absolutely! I think the people the British people would support it. The British people are no different than the American people in many ways. There are, of course, great pockets of resistance to change. There is an adherence to traditionalism. I live in London, I'm a resident of the UK. The people that I know there are good and accepting people, by and large. I think that Alex and Henry absolutely could have the wedding that they wanted if they wanted it.

Have you started thinking about your next film, theater, or writing project?
I'll honestly tell you that the thing I've been thinking about lately is getting a fair deal from the studios for writers and for actors. As a striking writer who also happens to be a non-striking director, beyond releasing this film, my primary concern is making sure that we can go back to work with a fair contract.

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